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Old 06-08-2012, 06:30 AM
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Default 17 Hornet load data

We have factory cartridges.

We have Hodgdon load data. (http://data.hodgdon.com/cartridge_load.asp)
Case: Hornady Barrel Length: 24"
Twist: 1:9" Trim Length: 1.340"
Primer: Federal 205M
How soon till we see factory rifles chambered for this cartridge
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Old 06-08-2012, 05:24 PM
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These loads don't even equal the factory Hornaday ammo.

I have the Hornaday loading data. It includes the 20Vmax and the 25 Vmax. It does not include Superperformance.

Hornaday is using more powder in their loads and acheiving higher velocities.

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Old 06-08-2012, 11:36 PM
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Picked up a box factory ammo in Great Falls yesterday. Reading the box yesterday and was wondering the same thing, are we going to be able to duplicate factory ballicatic with common powder. I hope this isn't going to be like the 25-06 where we have wait 20-25 years before the powder is released so we can achieve factory ballistics

I will tell you this is an interesting looking little round.
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Old 06-09-2012, 02:16 AM
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Go to that Hodgdon site and pull up the .17 Ackley Hornet or .20 Tactical and see what they show for max velocity on them .
Also, on the .17 Hornet and all others for that matter all they show is the powders they sell, their site so it's understandable I suppose if a bit disappointing. I'll be anxious to see what Hornady's load data shows as well as the chrono with factory ammo. More to the point, I'll be "real" anxious to get a rifle in my grubby little paws and take a run at er with AA1680 and especially VV N120
Just guessing but I'd lay odds the gophers'll never know the difference between the Ackley or Hornady .17 Hornets.
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Old 06-09-2012, 03:21 AM
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I would imagine that we will not see loads with Superperformance powder, it has a burn rate of about H4831. It works great in my 22-250 AI and 224 Durham Jet.

I plan on building a Hornidy Hornet on a Low Wall here in the near future. So I think that the same powders that I'm using in my Ackley Hornets will be the same that I use in the Hornidy Hornet. I was kind of hoping that we would see Hornidy come out with 17gr Vmax for the reloader with the introduction of this cartridge. I was told buy an insider that they are going to make another run of 17gr bullets in July, I hope they build a few extra.

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Old 06-09-2012, 03:50 AM
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AA1680 ran 3750 in their load data. The Savage actually was faster than the psi barrel.
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Old 06-09-2012, 09:12 AM
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I would imagine that we will not see loads with Superperformance powder, it has a burn rate of about H4831. It works great in my 22-250 AI and 224 Durham Jet.

I plan on building a Hornidy Hornet on a Low Wall here in the near future. So I think that the same powders that I'm using in my Ackley Hornets will be the same that I use in the Hornidy Hornet. I was kind of hoping that we would see Hornidy come out with 17gr Vmax for the reloader with the introduction of this cartridge. I was told buy n insider that they are going to make another run of 17gr bullets in July, I hope they build a few extra.

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So you are saying that you believe the powder in the .17 Hornady Hornet is of a comparable burn rate to H4831? That would be an incredibly slow powder for a case this size . Is it possible you were thinking it has a burn rate closer to H4198?
Ooop's, check that. Hornady is advertising a lot of different ammo using their "Superformance" powders on their website I see so it's obvious they must have a lot of different powders they call "Superformance". I hadn't seen that before but it's for sure they aren't loading the .300Win Mag the .204 Ruger and the .17 Hornet with the same powder, guess I learned something today . Not reading gun magazines and only hanging out here at Saubier doesn't teach a guy much about what the rest of the shooting world is up to .
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Old 06-09-2012, 11:16 AM
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I would imagine that we will not see loads with Superperformance powder, it has a burn rate of about H4831. It works great in my 22-250 AI and 224 Durham Jet.

I plan on building a Hornidy Hornet on a Low Wall here in the near future. So I think that the same powders that I'm using in my Ackley Hornets will be the same that I use in the Hornidy Hornet. I was kind of hoping that we would see Hornidy come out with 17gr Vmax for the reloader with the introduction of this cartridge. I was told buy an insider that they are going to make another run of 17gr bullets in July, I hope they build a few extra.

Bob
Cant see 4831 giveing enough velocity to be any good i do Light loads of it pushing a 20vm at 1,900ft/sec in my 17AH
I can get 3,900ft/sec with 4198 same bullet but twice the group size of Viht n120

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Old 06-09-2012, 11:58 AM
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Wally,
I would be interested in your load info for 4198.
Is that with H-4198 or IMR 4198. Kenny
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Old 06-09-2012, 01:16 PM
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What Doug said about the many different types of SuperFormance powders. I posted the very same quandary about the use of SuperFormance powder in the 17HH a while back and several responders said they must have many different types of SF powder. DuhÖ I didnít think of that. Any ways itís the only logical answer.
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